Episode 5: Sports Nutrition Transcript
[00:00:05.280] - Kayla
Hi, everyone, welcome to Nutrition Navigator's podcast, Bringing Nutrition and Wellness to you. Together, we learn from a variety of health professionals about their stories and how they contribute to the world that is wellness. This podcast is an extension of our campus health program, Nutrition Navigators Spotlight series presentations. We have a monthly podcast where we interview health professionals in the field about health and wellness topics for college students. This is our opportunity to grow and build community with University of Arizona students.
[00:00:34.560] - Kayla
My name is Kayla. I'm the student coordinator for nutrition navigators. Ashley Munro is my co-host and one of the nutrition counselors at Campus Health and the advisor for Nutrition Navigators. And a third co-host will be joining us today. She is an awesome volunteer for nutrition navigators Olivia, so I'll let her introduce herself.
[00:00:52.410] - Olivia
Hi, my name's Olivia Cain. I am a nutritional sciences major at the U of A and I'm going to be a senior this year. And I have my emphasis and dietetics, so hopefully will go on to be an RD. I wanted to join nutrition navigators because for the same reason that I'm going into the nutrition field as I'm really passionate about education and and helping people to lead a healthy lifestyle through nutrition and do that through what they put in their bodies. And I think Nutrition Navigator's is a really awesome platform to provide education to students, to learn about nutrition and and all that so thought it would be fun.
[00:01:32.710] - Kayla
Awesome. Thank you so much for introducing yourself, Olivia. Happy to have you here for today's podcast. So let's get started. On today's episode, we have the amazing Phil Lewis, he is the director of sports nutrition at the University of Arizona. He will be sharing more about the awesome work that he does with our student athletes. Now, let's welcome Phil Lewis.
[00:01:57.020] - Kayla
The first question for you is just to let our listeners know who you are, where you are from and what it is you do?
[00:02:04.980] - Phil
Yeah, sounds good. My name is Phil Lewis. I'm the director of sports nutrition at the University of Arizona within athletics. I was actually born and raised in Tucson, and I'm a wildcat at heart. I did my undergrad here in nutritional sciences and to give you a quick synopsis or tour around the country. I did my internship at Baylor University and then I did my graduate assistantship and master's at the University of Arkansas and worked in their sports nutrition program for two years.
Then I was at IMG Academy in Florida for a summer and then I worked at University of Oregon for a year. And then I also within that time, I worked for the Chicago Cubs organization for a season. And there's particularly their short A affiliate there in Eugene, and I've now worked at University of Arizona for four years.
[00:03:10.710] - Ashley
You were a little bit everywhere.
[00:03:13.520] - Phil
It was good. Like, it was it was a fast three years. I got a little experience everywhere and definitely enjoyed my time doing all that. I've been more stable the last few years, which has been good too.
[00:03:27.860] - Ashley
So it's maybe an awkward question, but is that do you have a favorite or did you really enjoy one experience at a place around the country?
[00:03:36.680] - Phil
Yeah, as you get further into your career, I think you learn to appreciate the different aspects of previous jobs. The professional realm and work with the Eugene Emeralds was was a lot of fun because there's a little more incentive there. There's still the knuckleheads that are going to eat what they want when they want. But you get a little more buy in when you're working with one specific team on a daily basis. I do like the college athletics. That's why I stuck with it so far, because I feel like you're still able to work with the athletes at a younger age. They are very much still kids. So you're able to mold that a little bit. The majority of our college population is is not going to be a professional athlete, so in my mind, being able to set them up for the rest of their life, versus just now or whatever is always nice.
[00:04:40.550] - Phil
But but that being said, the ones that do turn pro and you've been able to help them out along their way. And ultimately, if they are able to extend their career a few years, it's always rewarding to see that.
[00:04:54.940] - Ashley
Absolutely you get to be a part of their journey. That's really cool. That's awesome.
[00:05:01.820] - Kayla
The next question, I kind of have an idea why you chose the University of Arizona, but you said that you've been working here for around four years now. Do you have a reason why you chose the position you've been in, or how did you find yourself in that position?
[00:05:20.510] - Phil
Yeah, I think growing up in Tucson, I have a huge passion for Arizona's athletics. I grew up watching all the sports, like all sports, down to golf. I play golf on the side and then watching tennis, and just watching all sports growing up, made me interested. And, on the college athletics side of things, versus a professional level, you get a wide range of sports and get to work with a bunch of different athletes. For me in my undergrad and especially at at in my internship, when doing rotations in the community, I knew I want to be their sports dietician some day.
[00:06:15.380] - Phil
I had done a little bit of research into it, and UofA was actually the last PAC 12 school to hire a full time dietitian. And when I was working with the Emeralds at the time, and the job opened up and at that time, it was actually a dual role position where you were a strength and conditioning coach as well as the dietitian. My boss saw real value in having a dietitian on staff, but administration and some other people were a little against it or just had their doubts, like, "hey, let's put money elsewhere". So he was like it's OK, he can be a part of my staff and be a strength coach as well, so, yeah, the job came open and I was kind of bummed out initially, because when it it opened up, they wanted the CSSD qualification, which is a certified specialist in sports dietetics.
[00:07:12.310] - Phil
And then again, because it was a dual role, they wanted the CSCS qualification too, a college strength and conditioning coach. And well, honestly, I didn't have those when that job opened up, I was taking the CSSD exam in two weeks. I had already set that date. So I was like, I cannot NOT apply for this job. So, I went ahead and applied and I was fortunate enough to get it. This is kind of a learning point, that a lot of it is you who you know, not what you know sometimes. Right.
[00:07:59.500] - Phil
I passed the the courses, the exam, and then I updated my resume and told them I got an interview the next day and and they worked with me on the CSCS part. I always wanted to be a strength coach, so I did my master's in exercise science kinesiology. I enjoy the human movement side of things. And they work hand in hand, right nutrition and strength and conditioning. So I always had an interest, but with master's work and getting into work, studying for the the exam, that kind of took the back burner for a while. They worked with me on it and I came here, started the job, studied for a little more for the exam and took that and was able to pass that exam and the rest is history.
[00:08:52.470] - Ashley
That's awesome that they kind of saw the value, that your boss saw the value, and they were able to work with you and was good timing of the exam, but probably really stressful.
[00:09:05.670] - Phil
100% . I've had those numerous points in my career where that happens. For instance, with with Arkansas, I applied for that graduate assistant job and they were like, we'd like to have you go to grad school.
[00:09:24.400] - Phil
Great. OK, so I stopped, and starting for the studying for the GRE exam. I crammed for that for two and a half weeks and I went to take the GRE. I truly believe things happen for a reason and will work out if you work hard enough.
[00:09:48.630] - Ashley
So you like look back on it and you're like, yeah, that was supposed to happen that way, but in the moment it's like ahhh. Well, just maybe a little background for us. How does the sports nutrition program work down in athletics. Exactly. And which student populations do you mainly serve on campus?
[00:10:09.540] - Phil
That's a really good question. And there a number of different avenues, whether it's one-on-one nutrition consult with the athlete. Right. That can come either from me just being around an athlete and they asked me some questions. It might come from a referral from our sports psych department, or athletic medicine strength coaches. Like, hey we need to change body composition here. So there's the potential of that. There's the group education stuff that we'll continue to do. So everyone's getting some, even though they may be a little shy about coming and asking for information. Some of our athletes they literally just don't know and they don't know what carbs, protein of fats are sometimes. So it goes to that level of education. Body composition stuff, there's hydration assessment stuff we do too.
[00:11:02.400] - Phil
There's also working with the coaches and the director of operations on travel, meals, where should we be eating? Go through this menu and what are the healthier options? There's that avenue of nutrition, and then there's providing resources and fueling and logistics and working with Bear Down Kitchen and making sure that food there is is going well. Athletes are happy with it. All that kind of stuff, too. So, it really can go down a lot of different rabbit holes, which is which is awesome. Which in my job, it's not the same thing every day.
[00:11:39.670] - Ashley
It probably keeps you guessing. Like what's today going to bring.
[00:11:42.500] - Phil
For sure. There's there's the standard things that you're doing day to day. Then there is also putting out fires. I work long hours, but like I've worked those jobs were eight and a half hours a day where you have your half hour lunch at two fifteen minute breaks and you stare at your watch.
[00:12:01.800] - Phil
I work twelve hour days on a regular basis, when it doesn't feel like twelve hours if you have fun. And that being said, a lot of my job, like it's not necessarily physically doing nutrition work all the time and giving education or teaching an athlete, it might be cultivating a relationship with the coach. And being at a practice and being around because that's half the battle and just being around, they see that you care.
[00:12:29.250] - Phil
They get a little more buy in. That's kind of how nutrition within athletics is, it is very much hands on and go, go, go versus come into my office today sitting eight hours in my office. It's not that. And that's the that's been the beauty, honesty of being a strength coach as well, even though I don't have any more obligations as far as strength and conditioning goes, like I can still be out on the floor and help out with some of these groups and then that more face time with them and help them out and see that aspect again.
[00:12:59.550] - Phil
I think you get a little more buy in though too. And any time that I need three to five minutes to talk with athletes, the strength coaches are awesome. I love the staff that I work with and they'll give me that. In previous jobs that I've had, it's a struggle because that's their time, right? That's accountable hours and all that stuff. So it's been a big blessing here at Arizona with that support.
[00:13:20.490] - Ashley
Do you feel like you see the different teams equally or is there definitely some teams that have more nutrition concerns or questions than others?
[00:13:30.860] - Phil
Thanks for bringing me back to that. I kind of got off on a tangent. And so it really is it's dependent like how much I spend with a certain team. A lot of that really is dependent on the coach, on how much involvement they want in the team, in football, men's basketball are the big moneymakers.
[00:13:49.230] - Phil
But I'll be honest with you, I do some work with men's basketball. But I definitely do more work with, say, soccer and volleyball, I do some more work with football, the last two years has definitely taken more of my time.
[00:14:02.470] - Phil
I travel with them now on the way games and stuff like that. So a lot of it is coach dependent. But also then outside of that, if the coach isn't real keen on, say, nutrition or just like they don't, it's not of importance to them. I filter it through the strength coach and then avenue a little bit. But then it comes down to the athlete themselves that they want to if they want to explore more. And I tell athletes that all the time.
[00:14:25.180] - Phil
I have time in my day and I will make time for you. But you have to be willing to come ask the question or set up the meeting. And I will never force someone to come in my office. A lot of times, even even I'll have, say, strength coaches, and that will send an athlete my way. And they come in and they're like, hey, how's it going in there? Like, it's is good. So why why are you here today? Coach said I had to come here. Well, OK, let's talk about some things. But ultimately, you don't have to be here. I'm here for you. I'm a resource for you. Please take advantage of it, because once you leave college, you pay big money to sit down with someone like me. Right? So learn as much as you can now. And so and utilize me as as you see fit and you would you feel that it will help your career in life.
[00:15:11.050] - Ashley
I like that, you put the ball in their court and they get to decide what they really need help with, if anything, and you get them ready and more maybe have that buy in for sure.
[00:15:20.630] - Phil
Right. And I think that's why we continue to do group educations, because you definitely give them a taste of what it's like and then maybe it drums up some more questions and then hopefully it it snowballs a little bit.
[00:15:34.000] - Phil
And that's the other thing that's that's nice about the college world. Yes. You have athletes transfer, but a lot of them you're going to see for four years. It's not the end. It's definitely not the hospital setting where acute care, you're going to see him a week, maybe two, if you're really lucky. And I say lucky but unfortunate right.
[00:15:53.080] - Phil
I like nutrition when there's an established relationship and continued education, not like a one and done. Because nutrition can be a lot to grasp at one time. So reiterating and doing it more and more I think only helps in the individual.
[00:16:09.690] - Kayla
And I think it's really great that you mention that because I'm also thinking it goes back to how, they can't get help from others unless they help themselves first. So if they're being forced to see you, it's like am I going to be cooperative or not. That's really good you pointed that out. I also love that you mentioned more than what we all are suspecting that a sports dietician does, working with athletes, and helping them with what they're going to eat when they work out. But, I love that you mentioned you go to away games, and think "like what are they going to eat?" That's like so much more work than we all think because I was like, oh my gosh. Like that's a long time that they're traveling, they're traveling on a bus or a plane. And it's like, what are they going to eat like? Are they eating airplane food?
[00:17:07.030] - Kayla
That is really cool. I just never thought of things like that. And I love that it keeps you on your toes.
[00:17:15.790] - Phil
Especially like, let's say like soccer right there. They leave on Wednesday afternoon. Usually they play Thursday, Sunday, and then they come home. That's a lot of meals. Right. So it's simplified a little bit because a lot of them they'll have breakfast at the hotel. So it's just that same deal. But lunches and dinners for for four days takes some planning. Or football, there's the plane side catering you set up.
[00:17:44.050] - Phil
Then you get off and then we go to the hotel and straight to dinner. They go to the movie, have a snack after they come back, and then breakfast, lunch, pregame meal, post game, meal at the field and then another meal before they get on the plane. It's yeah, there's a lot that goes into it.
[00:18:05.260] - Phil
It's different with every sport. Obviously football has a little more money and we're going to feed them a little more. But there are definitely probably even little nuances in my job that may not be like completely aware. And so it really does go down a multitude of avenues because there is the whole food, your food service side of it. Like, I'll be honest, when I was in my internship, I foodservice rotation, not a fan of that really.
[00:18:35.080] - Phil
I like cooking, don't get me wrong. And I do a lot of the meal prep at home for me and my wife and my kid. But like cooking for the masses, forget about it. I have no desire to do that, but I'm still going to coordinate the catering, I'm going to set it up. I'm going to take down the catering a lot of times for the for the sport just to save some money, because we don't we're not going to sit there and pay someone for that service.
[00:19:01.840] - Phil
So anyway, yeah, it's you get a wide gamut of of nutrition work and stuff like that.
[00:19:10.870] - Olivia
Our next question is kind of related to the nutrition aspect of it. What would your best advice be for someone who's just getting started out and working out? And what would you suggest as far as their nutrition should be?
[00:19:25.630] - Phil
Yeah, that's that's a good question. And it applies to a lot of our athletes, too. It kind of goes back to your general population or someone, let's say, just working out on a regular basis. I think first and foremost, I can never emphasize enough, having well-balanced meals. That you have a plan for your day, and we're eating every two to three hours or a couple of main meals and a few snacks, depending on what your what your goals are, whether its weight loss, weight gain or maintaining, then you vary portions in there.
[00:20:00.160] - Phil
Maybe maybe you only do one snack a day. But I think it's important you continue to fuel the body throughout the day because you can only process and utilize so much at one time. And when I say well balanced, I always tell our athletes have all four, your carbohydrates, protein, fruit, vegetable and some fluids. And then within hour I talk about healthy fats and stuff like that. But normally it's the Myplate example of carbs, protein, fat, kind of deal.
[00:20:29.230] - Phil
But like to me, within your fruits and vegetables and your proteins, you're going to get your fats. So I touch on those, like making sure you have that checklist at your main meal and that you're getting all those as long as you are doing that. Especially for someone that's just, let's say, into cycling or doing triathlons and stuff like that, it may be a little bit different. But if you're working out at the gym, as long as we're eating balanced and having appropriate portions and not overkilling it, you're going to be just fine.
[00:20:59.170] - Phil
You're going to have good energy. You're going to have the right amount of electrolytes to help muscles function and get through any workout that you need. With athletes I over emphasize the hydration side of things. Sipping fluids throughout the day. Water is the preferred beverage. I understand that water gets old. So, whether it's adding some fruit or squeeze a lemon or lime to your water, there's a whole shelf full of the water enhancers like Mio fit , crystal light, stuff like that, give the water a little bit of flavor, but there's just not the sugar content. Because if you can't process and utilize the sugar that's in a beverage, like a sports drink or even juice or other high sugar beverages soda, we're just going to, again, process what we can utilize. Everything else is just going to eventually get stored as fat. So over time, it can be kind of detrimental from a health standpoint.
[00:21:52.810] - Ashley
How do you feel about everybody going straight to like a protein shake or something right after they workout? Do you feel like that's useful or are people just kind of habitual?
[00:22:04.930] - Phil
I think some of it is definitely habitual and that's what that's what's been fed to them by media sources and advertisements and stuff like that. So my stance on that, and I'll give an example, I see with athletes. If you finish a workout and you are ready to go eat a meal, whether it's breakfast, lunch and dinner, just go eat. I'd say if it's within a half hour. Now, if you jam in your workout and you've got a 50 minute class after, OK, some chocolate milk or whatever, good ratio of protein, got some electrolytes in there,or if you have lactose issues, that's not going to be your route, then maybe we do a smoothie that's almond milk based and you add a little bit of protein sources in there to to get a 2:1, 3:1 carb to protein ratio in there. And then you go have your sensible meal after your class, your good. So I think, yes, it definitely has some benefits, especially for for that that person that is truly like on a training program and it's looking to see some lean mass gains and develop some muscle for sure. They need to start that recovery process and get that going. But on the flip side, if if you are going to go have a meal, I would say just go have the meal.
[00:23:26.070] - Ashley
Giving practical advice, I like that. I don't have to stop and do this one thing, because, yeah, we're going to head out and we're going to dinner in like thirty minutes. They can save their money even over time. Right?
[00:23:38.890] - Phil
And I skip that step and that you can get into supplements. And if you want to talk about that, we definitely can on here. What I was gonna say with the example with my my athletes, a lot of them like Shamrock Rockin Refuel protein shakes, it is our sponsored beverage, and I actually work to get that in here, I'm a fan of that product and it has they have a wide range, working with Shamrock, as has been awesome.
[00:24:01.850] - Ashley
And they taste good.
[00:24:02.640] - Phil
Yes, they taste amazing, right? Yeah. I mean, I remember when I was in my internship, like it was so much easier to get someone to drink Rockin Refuel. Then some of the other shakes. So, yeah, good tasting product. And they have the recovery line, which is 20 grams of protein, and then they have their builder line, which is 30 grams of protein.
[00:24:26.780] - Phil
A lot of our guys are automatically think "need to get bigger", more calories, especially on the football side. I'll get the 30 gram shake. Well, in actuality, with the 30 gram, what they've done, they've taken the lactose out of that to appeal to that demographic that has lactose issues. So by taking the lactose out, lactose is sugar. Right. So you can significantly decrease the carbohydrates in that in that beverage.
[00:24:51.620] - Phil
Now, it's reverse it's three to one protein to carb ratio almost for those guys that need to truly try to put on some weight. They really need to do 20 grams, which has the lactose in more than two to one carb to protein ratio. And for the majority of our guys, 20 grams in the first half hour after working out is more than sufficient to help facilitate that recovery process.
[00:25:17.000] - Ashley
So more isn't always better.
[00:25:18.740] - Phil
One hundred percent. And you can potentially, especially if you're buying it yourself, you just kind of what I say, "peeing money out"
[00:25:27.420] - Olivia
Our next question is, what is a good resource for students in general to learn about more sports nutrition? And where can they learn more about new and ongoing information about sports nutrition?
[00:25:40.580] - Phil
Sure. Like I, I'd say a great tool I can think off the top of my head is the website, the College Professional Sports Dietician Association. So it's sportsrd.org. If you go on that website, you can scroll through the educational stuff and they have a bunch of different different tools of graphics that you can do that are pretty simple and quick and you can pull up and read through real fast and then some of them can get even into sports specifics.
[00:26:12.470] - Phil
If you're a club athlete and in one of those sports, it might be a little more specific to you, these handouts, but they're free to everyone. It's just on the website. You don't even need a membership for that. They have stuff that touches like on alcohol and hydration, all this all different kinds of things, antioxidants and stuff like that. I feel like that right now there's a plethora of information there that you really could get a firm, firm grasp on a lot of sports nutrition topics and and learn some good information.
[00:26:43.190] - Ashley
We will be sure to put that in the show notes too so people can look back and and have access to that one. Do they talk about supplements on there too? Because I feel like we whenever we go to the rec center, we get tons of questions about supplements.
[00:26:57.260] - Phil
There's and I can touch on that real quick here for sure. Like there's there's information on supplements and talks about that. And I think the big thing there is, is first asking yourself, why are you taking this supplement? Make sure you do your research right. Think what is this doing for myself? The majority of the time, like most individuals, they can get the needed carbs, protein, fat, micronutrients as well from the regular diet, especially if they're not like an elite level or college level athlete and be just fine. That being said, people are going to buy supplements. So my encouragement there is just know what you buying first, because anyone, me and anyone on here where we can go make our own supplement there right now and then we'll put it on the shelf at GNC and sell it. So what I say with that is look for products that are NSF certified or certified for sport. These especially the NSF certification, a lot of them, they're going through third party testing. So the company that's made the supplement has given it to someone else. And said "Hey, look at my product", which is a huge step in the right direction. And a lot of them, they're going to they're going to look for banned substances, of course, which for the general population may not be that important.
[00:28:12.000] - Phil
It's more about getting what you're actually paying for. And what's on the label is actually in the containers. So they are going to verify what's on the container and said in the amounts is actually accurate. Looking for these products, spending your money and using it this way it is meant to be used. Do your research with the product because just because it says five grams of creatine per serving on the jar for your body weight, it may you may not need that much.
[00:28:50.420] - Phil
I think is just knowing what you're buying and making sure that you have a reason to to to use it. And I would say this, too, I tell this to athletes, what's the point in buying the supplements and taking all that in if you're just going to binge drink three nights a week and and eat garbage? Like to me, you're just wasting money by buying the branch chain amino acids, creatine, protein powders, what have you.
[00:29:21.530] - Phil
So I'd say save your money and stuff like that.
[00:29:26.260] - Ashley
I like that because it's practical in the sense of, the basics have to be there for the supplement to be able to do its job. And then also these are good products, know what you're buying, because they can be really expensive. So, if you're not even getting what it says is on the bottle, that's problematic. I like that kind of even quick tip of having it be NSF certified.
[00:29:47.990] - Phil
100%. And there's apps for that NSF certified for sport has an app and you can see all the other products that are there have been certified by them.
[00:29:57.970] - Phil
And I'm definitely a dietitian and not all dietitians are this way, but I am very much a food first approach, especially with the college population. But that being said, like when I was at IMG Academy, we work with professional athletes. A majority of them were on a fish oil, HMB, creatine, and a multivitamin, like kind of standard. Yeah, but you look at their context, they're professional. Not all professionals are this way. There are still, again, knuckleheads at that level, too.
[00:30:25.460] - Phil
But when they're their training in the off season, that is what they are there for. So they're getting fed three square meals, snacks, sleeping in training. That's all they're doing. So there is definitely research out there that shows that some supplements in the right dosages, you will see some performance and recovery benefits for sure. So I'm not saying don't go take supplements, but start with the basics first for sure.
[00:30:51.260] - Ashley
Very good advice.
[00:30:52.920] - Kayla
Awesome information.
[00:30:54.260] - Kayla
I just have to say, I've liked everything you've talked about.
[00:30:59.780] - Ashley
Kayla's mind is blown.
[00:30:59.960] - Kayla
Yes. Whenever we're out there, so many people ask these questions and, you know, there's only so much like we can answer. And I think this is just really great information for like actually seeing very practical information for students when they hear this. I hope I'm sure a lot of them are going to be like, oh, my gosh.
[00:31:26.060] - Kayla
I never thought about it like that because you made it make sense. Because, you know, if we read this in, like, a book or nutrition class or something, we're kind of like, okay. But you took it and made it very easy to understand. And I'm I'm excited for students to hear this because I think it'll be helpful for sure, especially the supplements and stuff.
[00:31:49.910] - Olivia
I think that's information that most people don't know.
[00:31:54.480] - Phil
Yeah, they want to understand. They want the quick thing. They want to go down to GNC and just all the cool packaging, now let's pull it off and we'll have this all the way down here, too. Like, I mean, you step into a store like that, so many supplements, and it's like where do I even start? To me it's it's even more important, to research. Do your research at home on your computer and then buy from the computer. If you can write so much online shopping these days and majority of time you're going to get cheaper than you will in the store, too. So you might ultimately save some money that way, too, which is nice. I think this comes to down to, any piece of advice I can give, it doesn't matter what you're studying, cultivate relationships with professionals and ask questions.
[00:32:53.030] - Phil
A lot of times they may be busy, but like a lot of time I know in my I love the mentoring aspect. So like I will I will answer some questions in five, ten minutes or more than happy. But you have to be willing to ask them. I'm I'm the kind of shy and reserved at first, so I'm not going to dig them out of you. You got to ask them introduce yourself. And and I come back to that.
[00:33:17.720] - Phil
Cultivate the relationships. My boss, I met while I was a Starbucks employee in the drive thru, working the drive through on a daily basis. He would come through on a regular basis. Again, natural Arizona fan. He's wearing the Arizona gear. I chat him up and ended up applying for the job. And who's head of hiring Jim Krumpos. He's the guy that I met way back. Just working in a Starbucks drive through, so you never know where you're going to meet someone.
[00:33:47.420] - Phil
Be wary how you treat people, though, too, and establish relationships where you can, you never know where they will come to benefit you in the future.
[00:34:00.470] - Ashley
Very cool, I like that starbucks story.
[00:34:05.570] - Phil
It's awesome.
[00:34:07.010] - Ashley
Yeah, it's very cool. That's awesome.
[00:34:11.080] - Kayla
And I can tell just from everything you've talked about, like you're super passionate about what you do and super knowledgeable. It's awesome
[00:34:23.570] - Kayla
So the last questions will be our rapid fire questions.
[00:34:28.900] - Kayla
So I'm just going to go through like four super quick questions. So the first one is, if you could only have three foods ever again, what would they be?
[00:34:38.260] - Phil
We like talking whole foods or like individual foods here?
[00:34:41.740] - Kayla
They can just be...
[00:34:42.670] - Ashley
Like your desert island foods, like your.
[00:34:46.720] - Phil
OK.
[00:34:47.050] - Phil
So I'm having I'm definitely having tacos. Tacos for sure. Tacos. This shouldn't be that hard.
[00:34:55.110] - Ashley
I kind of love that it's hard.
[00:34:58.570] - Phil
I would say. Tacos, steak and I love rice just like a good brown rice is a great choice.
[00:35:08.800] - Kayla
This next one is breakfast or dinner?
[00:35:13.810] - Phil
Oh breakfast all the way.
[00:35:15.640] - Phil
I love even though you can't you can't expand on it too much breakfast all the way.
[00:35:20.820] - Kayla
Awesome. Crunchy tacos or soft tacos?
[00:35:24.070] - Phil
Soft without a doubt.
[00:35:27.380] - Ashley
We have a lot of team soft taco.
[00:35:29.020] - Kayla
I feel like, you know, I just feel like crunchy tacos, you know, like slice up your mouth or something. I don't know.
[00:35:36.200] - Olivia
Everything falls out and bite into it. The shell breaks.
[00:35:39.790] - Phil
More enjoyable tacos.
[00:35:42.070] - Kayla
And then lastly, if you could if you could have dinner with any three people dead or alive, who would they be?
[00:35:48.790] - Phil
I would say Sean Elliott is one. The other two. I would say George Washington, our first president, and I would say to my grandfather, my mom's dad, he served in World War Two, and I he passed away when I was when I was six. So, I remember him. But I'd love to have another conversation with him.
[00:36:26.260] - Ashley
That's a good dinner party. I like that.
[00:36:31.210] - Phil
Wide gamut there, I guess.
[00:36:34.440] - Ashley
Phil, thank you so much. We really appreciate you taking the time to talk to our students about not only what you do and how you got there, and your journey is so multifaceted and really cool. You work hard and great things can come of it and you're so passionate about what you do.
[00:36:55.800] - Ashley
I think this is going to be a really great way to get students thinking about how we fuel our bodies for activity and maybe keeping it simpler, or at least informed.
[00:37:09.540] - Ashley
I thoroughly enjoyed it. So, thank you.
[00:37:12.890] - Phil
You're so welcome. I said it's my pleasure and I enjoy doing these kind of things and that I do enjoy mentorship. So if it can can help someone out down the road and like you said, Ashley, I'm a firm believer in hard work. It goes a long way. So don't shy away from that. You don't have to know it all, it about potential, if an employer is hiring, knowing everything under the sun and in all the book is not the most important, you have to be knowledgeable, yes, but hard work and be able to relate to people and connect with people is just as important.
[00:37:57.760] - Ashley
I love that. And thanks for connecting with all our students. I think it's going to be really well received. So thank you.
[00:38:11.150] - Ashley
That's our show. Thank you so much for listening. Please share with your friends and connect with us on all of our campus health social channels. And you can also e-mail us at chs-nutritionnavigators @ email.arizona.edu, to submit your questions and comments about the show. We are excited to be bringing you monthly content to spark curiosity and further empower you to feel your best. We're sponsored by Campus Health and our program in the Health Promotion and Preventive Services.
[00:38:39.230] - Ashley
We want to thank Phil Lewis so much for being on the show today and taking the time to connect with us. We'd also like to thank our sound engineer, Brian Paradis coordinator for undergraduate recruitment for producing our show! And until next time, be well Wildcats!